[citation needed] Satriani was looking for an amplifier that was customized to his style, had every feature he required, and would work in both live and studio applications. If you're retubing, you should buy a full set of tubes and keep any spares as backups. instead of removing the. 6505+ 112 tube choices and how-to-install 11,611 views Feb 8, 2015 Dislike Share 87sherwood 1.09K subscribers Installed new tubes. They last a fairly long time. They could be used separately, or by plugging the instrument into the "parallel" connection, which fed both preamps, allowing selection of one from the other using a foot switch. If this works you need to replace the input jack. V1 handles the input stage. guys ( I miss you ) will know him as PVholic. High- and low-gain inputs. For the Preamp, either go all JJ's or one Tung Sol in V1 and the rest JJ's (12AX7). The magnet on the P10N is huge! Peavey 6505 II 120W 2-channel Tube Head. The power tubes while running just under 500 plate volts are only drawing about 10 to 12 milliamps of plate current. A few weeks went by and, curiosity got the best of us. [6], In 2019, Peavey laid off another 30 US based employees.[7]. There is no farthest away from the powertubes they are parallel to the preamp tubes. Running KT77's in the EL34 mode with a probe installed and the bias set to 36mA, the test points measured 45 volts. Here's the tube layout for a 5150II, note they are not in typical order. The power rating has gradually increased over time, and current model Bandits are rated at 80 watts RMS into 8 ohms, and 100 watts RMS into 4 ohms. Jul 31, 2012, 3:31 PM Like Reusenfisch [pro] Registered User Join date: Sep. $1,499.99. Also Available: Which One Is More BRUTAL?? Depth. Use our extensive knowledge, experience and customer feedback to select re-tube packages that will work great in your tube amp. Rounded out by a genuine spring reverb, the 6505+ 112 Combo has everything you'll need to satisfy the most metal tone-tastes. on your browser. After isolating the problem, the team retreated to an undisclosed location and got to work developing a top-secret output transformer, successfully improving the midrange performance and mimicking the magical crushing tone of the best examples of the original series. They are also programmable by way of computer software link.[11]. The Classic series amps have got to be one of the best working mans amps ever built. Videos Show White Stuff Falling at Happiest Place on Earth. Everything you love about Sweetwater in the palm of your hand. which pre is v1? Jeff was real happy with the JJ Electronic 6L6s and ECC83s that we loaded his amp with, but we, felt the amp could be improved with a bias mod. Love this. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. OK PV fans here is a picture of a guitar collection of an internet buddy and customer of mine that I've know for a number of years. We just tubed a pair of JSX heads that, were modded by Voodoo amps including the Mercury Magnetics VA-JSX-0 output trannys and because we get asked about the bias test points, almost everyday we decided to document the readings for you. PV has of course blamed the JJ E34L saying it's the problem but we happen to see it another way. The amp is in fact, NOT altering the number of gain stages in this channel to achieve clean and crunch, which is likely a large reason why the clean tone is so lacking. PV made a design change in late 2004 going to 700 ohm SG resisters but using the E34L's is still something we do not recommend. We. and whats the reasoning behind putting a differnt tube in that and using jj in the other 5? The distortion in the clean channel alone is more than most players need! Circuit board layout is conservative, easy to access, repair or modify. Well this amp has been played, about every other day now since 2000 and it gets ridden VERY hard and all the components other than the bias circuit including the 100 ohm, screen grid resisters and transformers are stock so this is testament that it's not so much the value of the screen grid resisters, it's whether or not. Well here's proof. For some reason PV got it right and although the combo amps are also fixed bias they, are fixed MUCH warmer and we can supply you with power tubes that will get the bias between 38 to 42mA which is right where they belong with, If you check a stock 5150 100 watt or an Ultra plus 100 watt head using an oscilloscope and a signal generator which is the classic old school, method of biasing a tube amp, you can plainly see crossover distortion in the wave forms until you get to about 33 to 34 milliamps of plate current, then the sine waves look perfect. A continuation of the 30th-anniversary celebration of the 6505 Series, the 6505 II was designed to stay true to the key design components of the original, while offering functional upgrades for an improved performance. stems just to the right of the right hand KT88. So if youre looking for a tech to bias your amp. The 6505 MH Mini Head has two channels that follow the same gain structure and voicing of its big brother! update.I left the ruby power tubes in and changed out the pre amp tubes.I had jj ecc83s i bought some mesa spax7 and groove tube 12xa7. This is a stock 5150! Use the button below to let us know you are a real customer, and we'll send you on your way [citation needed] The 5150 II, which contains an extra preamp tube for more headroom and gain on the Rhythm channel, is the old equivalent to the new 6505+. The proud owner is Steve Frost a local guitar hero here in Portland Or. These amps are fixed bias and use EL84 power tubes. The internal design is essentially identical to the vintage Marshall, with the exception of using a plate-fed tone stack instead of the Marshall-trademarked cathode-follower-based circuitry. The offset tube is the phase inverter, V5. The 6505 II offers an output power of 120W (rms) into 16, 8, or 4 ohms, with a speaker Impedance Selector switch located on the rear panel. This is not bad, its just. There is plenty of adjustment especially in the EL34 mode to fry any tube! The RM preamp is one of the nicest and most versatile preamps for the price. Now I've been told the tubes are responsible for the following: Looking from right to left, the tubes are arranged as follows: #1 (far right) the rhythm channel #2 is shared by the rhythm and lead channel (input stage) Peavey 6505+ 2x Peavey 5150 4x12 Line 6 Pod xt live rjm rg-16 Ibanez TS-9 Ibanez Prestige s5470f Ibanez Jem 555 Ibanez 7-String PRS SE Standard Classic30inCincy Member Posts: 31315 Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:10 pm Location: The Mountain Retreat [Cincinnati Ohio] Re: Tubes for 6505+ by Classic30inCincy Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:56 pm [citation needed] In 2010, Peavey released a new amplifier for the 6505 line, the 6534+. Peavey re-introduced the Wolfgang as the HP2 during the 2017 Summer NAMM show. clean and crunch channels; guitar > V1 (one half) > V6 > V3 > V4 > Power Tubes. No, you dont have to worry about that, its fixed bias." Although Peavey Electronics produces a wide variety of equipment, a few designs stand out through their popularity or use by prominent professionals. The 400 BH power amp module was used in a range of bass amps during the early 1980s, commencing with the MKIII Bass Head in 1979. We have discussed this multiple times here. In July of 1999 Bob tubed a 5150 for a local guy named Jeff Miesen, better known as Jeffytune on the Peavey forum. Please check the fields highlighted in red. [citation needed] This resulted in the renaming of the amplifier as the 'Peavey 6505', with slightly updated styling but original circuitry. Stick for me Ethanb08 No one in particular Join date: Dec 2008 110 IQ #1 I've been looking into retubing my 6505+, mostly the preamp, I'm just trying to. The 5150 II and 6505+ are the same amps and fall into the love it or hate it category. For the Power tubes, SED . You only need to probe one tube, set the, The bias pot is located right next to the power tubes so if you use a short bias probe you dont even have to remove the amp from the chassis. Like most retailers, we use advanced software to protect your security and personal If you're retubing, you should buy a full set of tubes and keep any spares as backups. This amp does have an adjustable bias but the available sweep is pretty, narrow and the only way to get the power tubes out of crossover distortion is to lower the resistance to the circuit and once again this is a very, Inside the amp there is a small circuit board that has the bias trim pot mounted on it and the final bias resister which is a 12K 1/4 watt resister. Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in. Now the EL84's clear the, magnet by 1/8". Oops, looks like you forgot something. Special financing options exist if you use your Sweetwater card. It was originally made as a signature amp for Eddie Van Halen. However, over the course of time, component suppliers changed ownership, altering their manufacturing processes, tone, and unit-to-unit consistency. You probably don't need new power tubes. Then set the bias select. If your looking for Pawn shop treasures make sure you keep your eyes open for the discontinued Rockmaster preamps and the little Classic 20. The CS series amplifiers (mainly the CS800) are some of the most used amplifiers in the world, and among Peavey's best selling products. Marshall players seem to be most impressed. With standard EL34's these amps lack the low end that most players want, We do get a lot of calls from JSX owners who are disappointed in the amp because they are playing scooped mid metal style so if you fall into this, category then I recommend switching over to the JJ 6L6GC's for power because they have a bigger low end than EL34's and even more low end. back to sweetwater.com: If it keeps happening, give us a call at 800-222-4700 and have the following Reference ID available. The Mace and Deuce were the same amp but the Mace had six 6l6gc output tubes and the other only 4. A truck carrying hydrogen tubes caught fire and sent gas leaking, forcing about 500 people to evacuate in Diamond Bar. Presence and resonance controls. Capable of anything from Blues to Metal. About two, years into production PV started using sub par screen grid resisters and players started having problems using the E34L's and even standard, EL34's. The overall difference was subtle but noticeable over a stock JSX. 6505mh ultimate tube layout for killer tone! The news about this, amp traveled fast and when Peavey heard about this they said "This can and will not work. amp a variation of only 3 volts at the factory test points made an incredible 20mA difference in bias!! The fire department plans to fill the cylinders with inert gas. With its Zebra wood front panel and snake-skin covering its not bad looking either! So closing this with Bobs favorite Confucius quote seems appropriate. It's very much like the Fender Pro Jr. Bob purchased a Weber AlNico P10N for his C20 (he paid more for the, Weber than he paid for the C20!) I guess i am more worried if the amp has lost any of its tone I want it to be running 100% and not break during a live show. The Peavey 6505 Series is outstanding for metal. The bottom end is extended and very tight and the breakup is oh so smooth! There are NO mods necessary to run this setup. [10][dead link] In 2013, an enhanced line of Vypyr amps was released. Here is a bit of information from August 2007: Here is the latest on the screen grid resister problems with the XXX and now the JSX amps. Do NOT bias your XXX ,JSX or 3120 for any EL34 type tube including the JJ KT77's using the test points! I dont play super heavey but I have the gain around 6. The 5150/6505 has no bias adjustment. of 16 milliamps measured with a bias probe only showed a 3 volt difference at the test points! With the bias dialed in to about 34 to 35 mA on the plates which was just out of, crossover distortion the amp was much improved! 120 watts (rms) into 16, 8, or 4 ohms (switchable) 2-channel preamp switchable on front panel or remote footswitch. As you can see by the bias meters on the left even very hot 6L6GC's only pull about 10 milliamps of plate current where they should be pulling, The KT88's are pulling about 32mA ( the right bias meter ) where they should be pulling about 60mA. 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